A conversation that revolves around the contents of Anne Karin Sæther´s book The Best of Intentions - The oil nation in the fight against climate change, which is dealing with the role of Norway as a major producer of oil and gas, and a leading advocate in fighting climate change. How is this combination carried out and what does it mean for the Norwegian national identity.

Towards the end of the last ice age parts of the North Sea was above sea level and habitated by human settlements in an area now called Doggerland. Professor Øyvind Hammer is a paleontologist at the Natural history museum in Oslo and has been a part of a research project investigating the possibilities for similar settlements in the Norwegian sector of the North Sea, using data shared by petroleum companies.

Former petroleum sector employee Rune Gaasø is an environmentalist and CEO of Nordic Circles, a start up company that seeks to repurpose steel from the maritime and petroleum structures. We discuss management of industrial heritage, establishing a circular economy, and storytelling through industrial materials.

Faced with the threat of climate change, efforts are being made to establish alternatives to fossil fuel as an energy source. While this is in line with the greater goal of cutting global CO2 emmissions, local consequences might be overshadowing the larger narrative. Having already struggled with dispossession through aggressive colonialism in the past, even in times of de-colonial discourse, indigenous peoples are again facing threats from the need for technology and natural resources.

Note: since recording this episode the Norwegian Supreme Court has ruled in favour of the Southern Sami in the case of the Fosen windfarm and the Sami Parliament has a new president; Silje Karine Muotka

Trying to get a better understanding of how technology is shaping our world, I had a conversation with Langdon Winner about the political aspects of technology. Winner is Thomas Phelan Chair of Humanities and Social Sciences in the Department of Science and Technology Studies at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, New York. He has written numerous books and articles on the topic of technology.

For this episode the roles are reversed as Ingrid Halland approaches me with questions about the inception and process around The Technological Twilight, going into topics such as creation of works, activism, research, how the project communicates and more. Ingrid is a curator, art critic, architecture and art historian, and also editor of metode online publisher.